October 27, 2005

  • I am having THE best time lately.  I don’t think I mentioned the class I took with my middle daughter, the one on growing and using medicinal herbs.  It was taught by a young man who I adore.  He is so enthusiastic, a great writer, really kind and good natured, funny and I love his looks.  Too bad he’s so young.  What is it with me and guys in their 30s?


    Anyway, the class was held at a local farm that donated their land to the city, and they teach community ed classes, along with renting out garden plots.  We listened to a lecture with much sharing from the students who were gardeners and knew a little about herbs.  Then, after our potluck — You should have seen the food people brought — we went outside to gather herbs and berries, to make a flavored vinegar, and this root called ella campaign (that’s how he pronounced it, I’m too lazy to look it up) which he dug up to get the root.  We ran out of time so I didn’t get to see him make the tincture.  But we did have time to make lavender honey.  It is so good and we all got high off the lavender, all of us sitting around stripping the flowers, filling our little jars.


    I followed this one older lady all around the farm, asking questions.  I think her name was Sharon.  She reminded me of a white-haired Buddha woman with her round face and knowing smile, wrapped in an expensive but durable looking shawl.  She hardly had any hair and looked ancient but she was the most passionate person there.  She’d read everything and made all kinds of salves and tinctures.  I wish I’d gotten her number because when I got home I looked out in my backyard and realized I was a fool to be thinking about selling an acre of organic land.  I should be growing herbs.  I should be an herbalist.  Just the word tincture turns me on.


    I emailed Andy and requested that woman’s number.  He hasn’t responded.  I started fantasizing about how I could take my potions and sell them up the street at the Whole Foods place.  I could write off some of my household expenses.  Then I got online and found an accredited school here in Portland where you can get a master herbalist degree in two years.  Get this, each summer they study abroad.  Last year it was Greece, the year before they went to Provence.  It’s $1900 for classes, room and board.  She was quick to point out that included wine.  I think it was for a month.  I don’t know that I could justify that expense but I can’t quit thinking about it.  This is the first thing I’ve wanted to do since court reporting.  I just don’t know that this would be at all lucrative.  But I’d be doing something to make the world a better place and I could grow plants that were wonderful.  The school is having an open house next week.  They have a garden there and teach you how to grow the herbs as well.  My daughter says she wants to come, too.  We got all excited, she talking about the advertising and me talking about the tinctures.  I could write about this stuff, too.  And maybe I could heal my oldest.


    Last night I took her to a vegetarian dessert class.  It was taught by the same guy whose tofu class I attended.  We sampled and learned how to make chocolate pudding using millet instead of flour.  Then we tried lemon pound cake with groat (whole oats) flour and tofu.  And he made chocolate chip cookies and a vanilla pudding with a hint of peanut butter.  The best was a chocolate pudding made out of wild rice, but a lot of people liked the brownies made from groats.  He put flax seed in the baked stuff which I think I’d skip.  The heat kills the good stuff anyway.


    Today, this same daughter and I went to the movies.  I recommend Elizabethtown.  I don’t think that’s two words.  The sound track is great and the movie was cute. 


    I have to brag.  Now that I’m keeping this house I can do things my way.  Like I can use funky colors on the walls and linoleum in the kitchen instead of fancy stuff.  I got these big pruning shears and went to town on the rhodies.  For some reason I had been intimidated by those hundred-year-old bushes but once I got the hang of it I was really glad I didn’t hire someone.  So what if this house is big and I’m just one person.  If I’m working out of it I need a little more space.  I even have a greenhouse with electricity. 


    You know the really bizarre thing is that the previous owner was a dermatologist and he invented this cream.  What if he was growing the herbs and making the cream right here?  How cool would that be to pick up where he left off?


    I have to be careful as I have a tendency to make stuff up.  Do any of you know an herbalist?  Do they make any money? 

Comments (26)

  • I’m sure good herbalists make money, but I’m also pretty positive that it’s not an easy profession to break into.  I think you should go for it, though.  I love your recent enthusiasm.  It’s good to read about your passion even in the form of pain as in your last few posts, but these ideas and activities of yours obviously make me happier.  Tincture *IS* a sexy word, and you’re a sexy lady.  30 year olds should be worshipping you   You’ll be proud of me, too.  All by my lonesome, I cleaned some house, made a good nutritious dinner, started sorting photos for my website, made good connections with friends, and went to bed at a reasonable hour last night.  I look forward to reading more of you!

  • ^^ i agree. it sounds like you are coming into your own as if it’s been asleep for decades and is awakening fresh and ready for the new challenges ahead. i love your sound of confidence and excitement and utter joy!

  • I think the idea is fabulous.  I don’t know an herbalist, but I want to.  I am just starting to get interested in alternative medicines, and have a friend who is studying to be an acupuncturist.

    You lead the way and we will follow.

  • I’m not sure about making a living, but I’ll bet you could make some money that maybe combined with other things… like writing about herbs and herbalists?  Focus on the excitement. Something that gets you like that is something to follow. Maybe it won’t take you down exactly the path you see now (herbalist) but maybe there is some path you cannot see now–and you won’t see it if you don’t start down the one you DO see, if that makes any sense.   (P.S. I’m sooooooooo jealous of an acre!)

  • RYC: I didn’t know anything about ranching but have ridden horses off and on all my life.  My Uncle Gayle in Kansas had a horse farm so on visits we kids all got the training and in between my dad taught us how to ride correctly, or as he said “Seat a horse”.   I am such a rookie at the cow business but everyday I learn something and retain it so Tis all good!.

    Love your recent discovery of tinctures and whatnot writings as they are packed with joy and learning.

    Marilyn

  • I know several herbalists (I used to be the herb buyer in a health food store) and no, they don’t make good money unless they write “how to” books that appeal to the masses. I knew a perfumer also (who made scents from herb oils), and he sold wholesale to people all over the world and still didn’t make much money. The trick to making money with this stuff is to know your market, create a good “hook” (something unique that’s inexpensive, easy to produce in batches, and appealing to a large number of people), and be able to mass produce.

    Using herbs is tricky. Combining certain herbs with medicines is a no-no; you have to know quite a bit about dosage and what the herbs do in order to sell the right stuff for the right reason. It’s also unethical, if not illegal, to diagnose. A study of all the vibrational remedies would help. If you stick to non-medicinal herb usage, you’d be okay. Herbs for cooking and teas, sachets and household uses, spiritual uses, etc., are less risky but you have to sell a lot of them to make any money at all. Growing your own is a time-consuming and extremely work intensive project. It takes a huge amount of “wet” herb to make enough dried product; it’s cheaper to buy in bulk from an herb supplier.

    I know I’m seeming awfully negative about this; I’m not trying to discourage you. I think it’s all a great thing to get into, but having had my own company (which was cutely called Herban Renewal) some years ago, I know how much is involved. From buying at the health food store, I know that inventory control with herbs is a huge headache (which can be treated with a number of herbal remedies heh heh.) However, if you resonate so strongly with the herbs and herb products, it would be a good idea to research and study with it until you feel you’ve gotten enough info to know what to do with it. There may be someone connected with this that you need to find, or some information that will spark another journey. Since you are already into alternative treatments, this may be the opening for you to expand on that or encounter something new. Just be careful about focusing on the end results; it’s the journey that’s most important, the process.

    Good luck with whatever you do with it. Anything that inspires that much enthusiasm has got to be important.

    T

  • I agree with the previous comments. Something about this idea is IMPORTANT. If you would in our group someone would say, “That idea sounds important and I would like to hear more about it.” Now to figure out exactly what the idea is for you . . . . .

  • i got quite a bit of herbalism in my REVIEWS section…and i suppose they CAN make money since a lot of that stuff works  As for leaving…i’m a $100 premium lifer…so i’m just stepping back for awhile.

    Got a minor six-month ad campaign coming up in *Mother Jones*, and since a link to my blog is on the back cover, i’ll have to return to doing my schtick on Xanga when it comes out for THAT possible audience…but as far as coming up with daily material for Xanga…THAT is one of the greatest mistakes of my life—fickle audience/

  • No clue on the money, but I say go for it! It’s always fascinated me, but I never even bother to start trying since I live in an apt. I think the bonus of wine is humorous, something that would entice my mom to go, that kind of thing.

    And to be able to do up your home as you really want…what I wouldn’t give for that.

  • Isn’t it wonderful to find something about which you feel passionate?  I feel that way when things are going well in the studio.

    RYC: I don’t recall how I found Femme; probably checked her out after being intrigued by a comment she left on someone else’s site.  I vaguely recall that she might be up near Bellingham, but I don’t know why I think that.

  • A woman I know has been growing and selling herbs for almost 20 years now. She sells cut herbs, plants, jams, jellies, chutneys, vinegars, potpourri, and essential oils. She also specializes in native plants and their uses. She has a wealth of knowledge. She sells at a local farmer’s market, and out of her home. My younger sister dreams of owning an organic farm some day.

    My sister is learning the ropes (while at full time university) by volunteering on a local organic farm. She also hopes to apprentice next summer. And there are organizations such as WOOF, that allow people to volunteer on organic farms (in exchange for room and board)Perhaps you can find someone with a passion for herbs who is willing to take on a volunteer or apprentice…if you are passionate about it, and want to try it, I say, go for it. Not everybody has the land available for that purpose.

  • First, I am very glad you are keeping your house- maybe I missed a post somehow… but that sure does sound like what you need, to stay, to settle in, to create a home for yourself. And herbs, becoming a master herbalist could be a fulfilling journey in itself, and you could always add it to perhaps a catering service, organic, vegetarian, with herbal magic. You might have to get one of those awesome professional ovens that I’ve salivated over, even though I’m not a gourmet cook like you are. You could sell herbs and tinctures, do some catering, even cook an entire month’s worth of meals to be frozen for people- there are lots of ways to make money in this area. Or, oh, oh, open your own tea house in part of that hundred year old home… and sell your awesome desserts. And you could write a book about the journey, with recipes. Autobiographical cooking books, if they’re written with sensuality and enjoyment and wit and love do very well. As long as you left lots of time for fiction writing, travelling, living too… xo

  • This is so cool! My husbands grandfather (from an estranged father) was a famous herbalist in England. He is famous for the cardigan cancer cure. He was ostracized and  demonized fo rhis work.His sister is a rep for a herbal line of products and does all right. I think the potential for money is always there as long as you keep your eyes open..

    Beware of liability..its huge in herbology…as you can imagine!

    You sound very alive and vibrant in this post. Wonderful!

  • I am just catching up on my reading….I know exactly what you mean about your house. My husband and I designed and built a new house last year after we sold out “homemade house ” and some land. I did some strange things but they suited me…Like my floors..its all ceramic tile…..no carpet ot wood..and it was a major expense…but I have indoor animls ,allergies,and I am an artist which can get messy….also I loke the feel of the floor…I have a free standing kitchen too with minimal cabinets..my house kind of reminds me of a loft…very open floor plan, I used bakers racks and a John boos table in the kitchen…dern I digress…what I really wanted to share was thatI read yesterday’s post…I had a chronic appendicitis and the appendix was eventually removed..The surgeon found lots and lots of dense adhesions.Theuy do cause pain and other pronlems.Just last august I had to have a procedure to find out why a ureter (tube from kidney to bladder ) was obstructed..turns out it was .scar tissue..They tell me that it can ,as in the case of my ureter cause obstructions. I did some research on adhesions I’ll see if I can find a link to a support group that has information about some new approachs and get it to you later.I am sorry your daughter has to go through this ..its tough….RYc..thanks

  • Sounds like a fun path to travel down. . .

    RYC: thanks for the birthday wishes!

  • RYC First here is a link…. The Adhesion Society
    I have one guess based on the proximity to her ovaries ..that would be thatsomehow her cycle may change the position or sise of near by organs…like functional ovarian cysts that come and go,,,if her bladder is tethered by adhesions then if there is a slightshift of it or a near by organ it might cause spasms or pain, I had more trouble before I went through menopause ( I am fifty one ) and it was because of this. I remember reading about a way to operate ,remove the adhesions and prevent them form coming back…if I can find a reference I will link you to it…but it involves laying something over the organ that keeps the adhesions from reforming…something like a sheet of celophane that is then absorbed by the body like a stich might be. I’ll see later if I can locate it..it might be buried in that message board, I’m going to go get coffee. One final note…once I understood how at times I can have intense pain but not be in physical danger * this of course excludes obstructions..but they have other symptoms as well ) it became easier to cope when it really hurt because I;m not scared,,just hurting….

  • RYC (which I just figured out must mean regarding your comment): I’m trying to write more about myself. It seems there are many layers and compartments. There is plenty I’m still not comfortable writing about for public viewing. That’s one thing I wrestle with. The stuff I want most to write about would be personal essay type things. Yet I’m very uncomfortable with confrontational situations and need to find a way to balance my strong views with my desire to “just get along”. ;) But I’m glad you’ve enjoyed the posts.

  • very cool, I have always been into medicinal herbs, I have lots of books that I haven’t had time to pick up and read again, but I keep them, because one day I’ll get that time to spend on really learning more about them and using them… That lady sounds wonderful, I can imagine her -I love to photograph people like that- is she one that has reached enlightenment? Twinkle in the eyes? I love being around people with twinkles in their eyes… :) YOU sound great btw! :)

  • I used to be really interested in herbs, but never thought that anyone could make money at it. I still take some herbs like milk thistle and, if a cold is coming on, echinacea.

    BTW: I was readying Shahrazad’s blog and I saw your response. I couldn’t believe you never heard of “greasing the palm.” You don’t hang out with enough greasy people (LOL).

    Lynn

  • You are right where you need to be-wonderful. You are very excited about doing herbal things–pursue it!

  • All sounds very exciting!  Hope it works for you

  • http://www.itmonline.org/arts/adhesions.htm Eastern & Western medicine.  I posted before but the comment has gone.  Wicked Xanga!

  • I say go for it. Life’s too short not to…especially if this struck a passionate chord with you…you’ll make it work, regardless of what others may or may not have done. My mother-in-law did a similar thing a couple years ago and became a degreed naturopath – she does healing through nutrition therapy with people on the side of her fulltime job. If she wanted to, she could make a living at it…but she wants her airline pension, so is sticking that out. She’ll probably do this more fulltime once she retires at 60. I say, if something strikes a chord, there’s reason…and you shouldn’t ignore it – that could be the path you should be heading toward right now! :>)

  • you left me hanging! What did they say?! Blue eyes and brown are supposed to be the ‘pure’ colors- everything else is toxics in the body that cause the color mutation of Hazel, etc. This means, that I am toxic and so is my son, HIS eyes are changing almost to a yellow Hazel brown… very strange. I don’t really believe I’m toxic tho… I wonder tho-will my eyes change if I reach nirvana?

  • Very cool blog.  I’ll be back!

  • You certainly sound excited about this. Even if you didn’t make any money off of it, you would still be having fun right?

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